From:  Michal Dziewonski <>
Date:  18 Jun 2015 18:18:25 Hong Kong Time

Re: SuMo KB in bn-BD & bn-IN locales :: A new perspective



Here's a quote from Jeff's email summarising the discussion in Portland. I
am also CCing Jeff to make sure he's away of the current status of the

*"Hi all, I wanted to follow up from previous conversations with an update
on our Bengali l10n community. We had a good discussion in Portland between
Biraj, Soumya Chakerboty, and Mak. The discussion was framed around
identifying the needs of the Bengali-speaking user in the region. We were
able to maintain that focus to an extent, but inter-community conflict
issues also became a focal point in the discussion. It was clear that the
bn-BD members were in favor of merging efforts and saw the advantages for
the user. The locale-specific conventions (currency, time and date format,
etc.) could be automated in order to provide the best user experience for
the user. The bn-IN members were not in favor of merging efforts. They saw
a merger as throwing away a lot of their good work and as an unjustified
action, as they have performed excellently as their own community. They
also cited come conflicts they've had with members of the bn-BD community.
Eventually, the conversation moved to directing attention at the bn-IN
members to address why merging didn't make sense to them. Had the
discussion continued, it would have become more accusatory, defensive, and
unproductive, so we put a pin in it and decided to revisit the discussion
at a later date. After the discussion (and Michel & Arky can add more
details here), Mak and Biraj were able to come to an agreement to use SUMO
as a pilot for merging efforts. It seems both communities struggle to
adequately cover SUMO article translation. I'm unaware of the
specifications of this pilot. Axel, Arky, and I are traveling to India in
February and plan to get Biraj and Mak together again to continue the
discussion there. If anyone has more details to offer, please feel free to
do so here. We're also happy to answer any questions about the discussion.
Thanks, Jeff"*
To the best of my knowledge, there are no other notes from that meeting


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2015-06-18 12:03 GMT+02:00 Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <>:

> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Michal Dziewonski
>  wrote:
> > What I do have is native speakers in both locales agreeing that the
> > differences between the locales are small enough to enable the users to
> > benefit from existing localization for either of the locales.
> Michal, thank you for taking time to respond. I am hoping that
> individuals/staff members/Mozilla associates before you would be able
> to respond to some, if not all the points I have sought detail about.
> Meanwhile, would it be possible for you to point me to specific
> instances where native speakers have publicly and on record identified
> these small differences as being not an impediment to allow users to
> benefit from either locale?
> --
> sankarshan mukhopadhyay
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