From:  shine nelson <radioactive.life@gmail.com>
Date:  28 Apr 2015 16:43:12 Hong Kong Time
Newsgroup:  news.mozilla.org/mozilla.community.kerala
Subject:  

Re: Mozilla Kerala Portal Project

NNTP-Posting-Host:  63.245.214.181

Oops. Sorry. My bad then. I'll keep it in mind in the future.

*apologies* for snapping at you due to my own inexperience. Sorry.

Cheers,

~ shine

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Nikhil John 
wrote:

> "npm install" is a default procedure for every node based applications
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:58 PM shine nelson 
> wrote:
>
>> You didn't mention any extra procedures required to deploy the site in
>> your mail. How am I supposed to know that I need to "npm install" before
>> deploying? You should've mentioned it in your mail.
>>
>> Please be very thorough about extra dependencies and procedurall changes
>> when you're sending in 'deploy' mails to avoid such situations in the
>> future.
>>
>> The module dependencies have now been resolved and the webpage is now
>> staged at staging.mozilakerala.org:1337
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> ~ shine
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Nikhil John 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> there is a request module required for event list. But i have added it
>>> to package.json. A simple "npm install" should have fixed it.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:44 PM shine nelson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Nikhil,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for working more on the page as promised. You kept your word.
>>>> You deserve the appreciation for it. But you had mentioned to me earlier
>>>> that you didn't want my appreciation, so, I won't say anything.
>>>>
>>>> I tried deploying your code to the server [1] and came across some
>>>> (HTTP 500) errors (Sails Error log [2]). Are there any specific extra
>>>> dependencies to be resolved before deploying the site?
>>>>
>>>>  Links :
>>>> [1] http://staging.mozillakerala.org:1337
>>>> [2] http://pastebin.com/Qf01N4w3
>>>>
>>>> ~ shine
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Nikhil John 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I have noticed here before, i have reconstructed the MKO site to a
>>>>> "no dummy content can be found" site and merged to the MKO repo in
>>>>> github[1] and deployed in my test server[2]
>>>>>
>>>>> Though the site lack text contents due to my poor documentation skill,
>>>>> I have managed to make dynamics event list from reps portal event api. Also
>>>>> added gallery and milestones area to display the important works of Mozilla
>>>>> Kerala. Feel free to fork and hack my work to add documentation or anything
>>>>> cool. Test my work before deploying. I have exams in 2 weeks. So, i wont be
>>>>> available to code anymore till 19th may 2015.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Nikhil John
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://github.com/MozillaKerala/MKO
>>>>> [2] http://dev.nikz.in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:23 AM shine nelson <
>>>>> radioactive.life@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I did thing in Mozilla to my freedom limits and capabilities. I am
>>>>>>> just asking people reading this to "DO" something rather spamming here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've done your part. If you can continue working on it. Well and
>>>>>> good. Otherwise leave it at that and someone else who might be interested
>>>>>> in taking it up might take it forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And shine, please stop thanking me. Its really irritating in this
>>>>>>> situation. [...] shine, please do not talk to me like "thank you for doing
>>>>>>> it bro". I'm starting to hate this. Seriously shine, u talk too much
>>>>>>> without understanding things to be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry if it has offended or irritated you. I felt that you needed
>>>>>> to be appreciated for the work you've done and that too right after
>>>>>> re-joining the community. You deserve it man. But no, I woun't thank /
>>>>>> appreciate you anymore since it has reached to an 'irritating' situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It feel like u want me to do everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. I do not. Since you started working on it initially, you
>>>>>> shouldn't be abandoning it half-way through. I was just suggesting to
>>>>>> complete whatever you started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just wanted everyone to contribute in this. I don't want a solo
>>>>>>> project since this is a "community".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not everyone might be available according to your convenience.
>>>>>> Especially when it is exam time and most of our volunteers are students and
>>>>>> need to prepare for exams. But hey, doing a solo project is not bad after
>>>>>> all. You can keep all the credits for yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Despite of all my other works, If no one take any interest in doing
>>>>>>> thing rather than talking about it, I'll take one more effort to finish
>>>>>>> this project on 27th April 2015. If i finish doing that... [...] u
>>>>>>> talk too much without understanding things to be done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll not comment this thread until someone do something or April 27.
>>>>>>> That's all. Bye.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was no deadline to complete this. Not on you or anybody else.
>>>>>> And you shouldn't be keeping one either. Its a community and nobody is
>>>>>> obliged to do anything. You volunteer your time. You've done your part. If
>>>>>> you can, continue it, or else, let someone else take it up when they have
>>>>>> the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~ shine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Nikhil John <
>>>>>> nikhiljohn1010@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I never asked anyone to comment my reply. I did thing in Mozilla to
>>>>>>> my freedom limits and capabilities. I am just asking people reading this to
>>>>>>> "DO" something rather spamming here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And shine, please stop thanking me. Its really irritating in this
>>>>>>> situation. It feel like u want me to do everything. I just wanted everyone
>>>>>>> to contribute in this. I don't want a solo project since this is a
>>>>>>> "community".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Despite of all my other works, If no one take any interest in doing
>>>>>>> thing rather than talking about it, I'll take one more effort to finish
>>>>>>> this project on 27th April 2015. If i finish doing that... shine, please do
>>>>>>> not talk to me like "thank you for doing it bro". I'm starting to hate
>>>>>>> this. Seriously shine, u talk too much without understanding things to be
>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll not comment this thread until someone do something or April 27.
>>>>>>> That's all. Bye.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM Akshay S Dinesh <
>>>>>>> asdofindia@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not know what the current capabilities of the server are. But
>>>>>>>> if we can install just node the other stuff can be installed in the user's
>>>>>>>> directory and this is how node works and that shouldn't be considered a
>>>>>>>> limitation. Remember that if we were running a php page we'd had to have
>>>>>>>> php and modules installed. If we were serving pure html through python, we
>>>>>>>> still need to have python installed. Although python/php comes installed in
>>>>>>>> most servers that's not really node's fault.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, I agree with Saurabh's suggestions. Heroku, even the
>>>>>>>> free plan, must be powerful enough to run our server. It might have
>>>>>>>> difficulties
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> running on a naked domain, though. We could also consider openshift
>>>>>>>> platform
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think the database dependency is optional as of now, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, in defence of node, it is javascript. And we are Mozilla.
>>>>>>>> Mozilla loves the web. And web speaks javascript. Therefore there is no
>>>>>>>> reason why it shouldn't be a good choice for a Mozilla website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even if the page can be done in a static way now, there's probably
>>>>>>>> gonna be a time in future where we need some element of dynamicity. It is
>>>>>>>> better to be prepared for that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The email updates section could be connected to this
>>>>>>>> community-kerala mailing list, I guess. And the other sections can be
>>>>>>>> manually updated for the time being.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Saurabh Nair >>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please consider this as an 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  - jsx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 6:54 AM, shine nelson <
>>>>>>>>> radioactive.life@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I am sure u didn't read the wiki for getting started with that
>>>>>>>>>> page. link
>>>>>>>>>> > is in its readme.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did read it. What I was asking is whether it was feasible to
>>>>>>>>>> install so
>>>>>>>>>> many stuff for a static page.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sails framework is doing a lot of hard work behind the server to
>>>>>>>>>> increase
>>>>>>>>>> > performance of the site as well as ensuring its future
>>>>>>>>>> scalability.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> IDC about what SAILS is working on right now. My question is
>>>>>>>>>> whether its
>>>>>>>>>> worth using them for this particular page in question. I could
>>>>>>>>>> put in
>>>>>>>>>> Python, Ruby and all the languages I know into a project. But
>>>>>>>>>> what I need
>>>>>>>>>> to look at is which of these languages is best suited.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also its arch. work well with new technologies and modules we
>>>>>>>>>> need to use.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> This is a static page, remember?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can u promise me that you will deploy the site in a week if I
>>>>>>>>>> give u the
>>>>>>>>>> > extracted static site( html+css+js+images ) from framework??
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> I don't need a week to clone a repo and deploy it to the server.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I'm saying is that right now, the page is a dummy page. It
>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>> ready to be deployed. Before deploying to production, you have to
>>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>>> all the dummy elements from the page. And if that is done, what
>>>>>>>>>> remains on
>>>>>>>>>> the page would be the logo and the footer. And if that is what
>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>> asking to deploy and the community agrees to that (or the dummy
>>>>>>>>>> page as
>>>>>>>>>> is), sure I'll deploy it with no further questions. I was just
>>>>>>>>>> raising my
>>>>>>>>>> questions and views as part of the community.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ~ shine
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Nikhil John <
>>>>>>>>>> nikhiljohn1010@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > Dear shine,
>>>>>>>>>> > I am sure u didn't read the wiki for getting started with that
>>>>>>>>>> page. link
>>>>>>>>>> > is in its readme. Btw, Sails framework is doing a lot of hard
>>>>>>>>>> work behind
>>>>>>>>>> > the server to increase performance of the site as well as
>>>>>>>>>> ensuring its
>>>>>>>>>> > future scalability. Also its arch. work well with new
>>>>>>>>>> technologies and
>>>>>>>>>> > modules we need to use.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Can u promise me that you will deploy the site in a week if I
>>>>>>>>>> give u the
>>>>>>>>>> > extracted static site( html+css+js+images ) from framework??
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM shine nelson <
>>>>>>>>>> radioactive.life@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi Nikhil,
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> If there are elements that don't work on the site, its best we
>>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>>> >> them than deploy a buggy web page. You can ping me for
>>>>>>>>>> deploying to the
>>>>>>>>>> >> production server when it is ready.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Also, I highly suggest that you setup a gh-pages branch in the
>>>>>>>>>> repo so
>>>>>>>>>> >> that static elements can be looked up easily from
>>>>>>>>>> mozillakerala.github.io.
>>>>>>>>>> >> I know the site right now can be looked up at dev.nikz.in.
>>>>>>>>>> But you can't
>>>>>>>>>> >> always deploy everything to your server at all times.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Also, I understand that this static page uses frameworks that
>>>>>>>>>> need to be
>>>>>>>>>> >> installed on the server for this to work. So, it would be
>>>>>>>>>> great if you
>>>>>>>>>> >> could piece up the feasibility of the framework for the web
>>>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>> >> (especially, when it is a static page and can be deployed
>>>>>>>>>> using simple web
>>>>>>>>>> >> technologies (HTML, CSS and Javasript) ). Could you also
>>>>>>>>>> document how this
>>>>>>>>>> >> can be deployed to the server with the procedure (stuff to be
>>>>>>>>>> installed,
>>>>>>>>>> >> points to remember while installing, how to build and deploy,
>>>>>>>>>> etc) to
>>>>>>>>>> >> getting this done.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> ~ shine
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Nikhil John <
>>>>>>>>>> nikhiljohn1010@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hi mozillians,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> I thought CUSAT'ians would help after April 17th. Hmm. If
>>>>>>>>>> anyone is
>>>>>>>>>> >>> alive reading this who have server access, please deploy the
>>>>>>>>>> site with an
>>>>>>>>>> >>> updated static content( no need to do the subscription code
>>>>>>>>>> and event
>>>>>>>>>> >>> pulling code now. Just publish the site with static contents
>>>>>>>>>> ). Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Nikz Jon
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:30 PM Nikhil John <
>>>>>>>>>> nikhiljohn1010@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I have just optimized the site and deployed in production
>>>>>>>>>> env. Hope it
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> loads fast for everyone now.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:50 PM Akshay S Dinesh <
>>>>>>>>>> asdofindia@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Checked out the head. Looks brilliant, modern, lovely!
>>>>>>>>>> Congrats!
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Nikhil John <
>>>>>>>>>> nikhiljohn1010@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > As I have been working on Mozilla Kerala website for last
>>>>>>>>>> 2 weeks,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > first version is almost ready to deploy. But it do need a
>>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> more work.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Issues need to be solved:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > 1. Subscription form needed some backend work to add
>>>>>>>>>> mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > subscription functionality to it.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > 2. Latest events need to be pulled from rep's portal or "
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > events.mozillakerala.org", which is currently not ready
>>>>>>>>>> to push
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> that list.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > 3. Add the count of active Mozillians and learners to
>>>>>>>>>> homepage.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > 4. Update the Mozillian of month and App of the month.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > As I need to engage in other things, i would not be able
>>>>>>>>>> to deploy
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> is now.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > I hope varghese would work on it. Also anyone in Mozilla
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> contribute to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > it.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Source : https://github.com/MozillaKerala/MKO
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Test site : http://dev.nikz.in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > I request everyone in Mozilla kerala to help in this and
>>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> deploy
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > ASAP.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Nikhil John
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:16 AM Akshay S Dinesh <
>>>>>>>>>> asdofindia@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> Great news! And sails is very interesting!
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 at 02:02, shine nelson <
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> radioactive.life@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> This is to inform you that Nikhil John [1] and Varghese
>>>>>>>>>> Thomase E
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> [2] has
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> started to work on the ever-postponed lazed but
>>>>>>>>>> ambitious project
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> Mozilla Kerala - the Mozilla Kerala Portal.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> The project will be called MKO (mozillakerala.org).
>>>>>>>>>> The source
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> code is
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> publicly available for hacking on github [3]. The
>>>>>>>>>> project uses
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> NodeJS and
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> the SAILS framework to work. So, whoever is experienced
>>>>>>>>>> and is
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> in contributing to the project, please do join in. Feel
>>>>>>>>>> free to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> fork,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> hack
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> and give back.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> Happy Hacking,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> Links :
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> [1] https://github.com/nikhiljohn1010
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> [2] https://github.com/varghesethomase
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> [3] https://github.com/MozillaKerala/MKO
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> ~ shine
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> community-kerala mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> community-kerala@lists.mozilla.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-kerala
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> community-kerala@lists.mozilla.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-kerala
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
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