From:  Bernard Tyers <ei8fdb@ei8fdb.org>
Date:  06 Dec 2016 04:34:04 Hong Kong Time
Newsgroup:  news.mozilla.org/mozilla.accessibility
Subject:  

Re: Devroom at FOSDEM about accessibility

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Hi,

I've seen that unfortunately the a11y devroom wasn't successful. Thats a
pity.


Its short notice, apologies for this, but the official deadline is this
evening.

If anyone would like to submit a proposal to the open source design
room, we'd be happy to see that.

You can find the CfP here:

opensourcedesign.net/events/2017/02/05/opensourcedesign-fosdem-2017

You can get me on this address if you have any questions.

All the best,
Bernard


On 23/08/2016 21:44, Bernard Tyers wrote:
> Hi Jean-Phillipe,
> 
> Great to hear you submitted. I hope your proposal gets accepted.
> 
> Let us know how it goes and I will happily publicise it to the
> accessibility community in government user-centered design in the UK.
> 
> See you at FOSDEM.
> 
> Bernard
> 
> On 22/08/2016 22:12, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, I submitted, to let us choose how we do. Given that the replies
>> from Samuel, Mario and Shérab, I reduced to one day, as I wouldn't like
>> to do 2 days and not enough present persons. Moreover it 9ould let
>> people switching between other devrooms and this.
>>
>> I let you informed when I've answer.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 22/08/2016 à 22:37, Bernard Tyers a écrit :
>>> Hi Jean-Philippe,
>>>
>>> In case you haven't seen, the FOSDEM devroom call is now open:
>>>
>>> https://fosdem.org/2017/news/2016-07-20-call-for-participation/
>>>
>>> Is there any update on your submission of an a11y room? I'd love to know
>>> more.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> bernard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/07/2016 19:27, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> After 1,5 year of intensive dialog with community, I still see that the
>>>> main problem of accessibility is missing of knowledge (why, how), as
>>>> well as wrong ideas (e.g. I need to create a speech synth, etc). And
>>>> mail is not enough, devs need to see concretely how things happen, what
>>>> is possible, why, etc. Just guidelines and principles could be written.
>>>>
>>>> I also think if big projects could ship accessibility in their strategy,
>>>> it could change everything and create a more global movement.
>>>>
>>>> To help this, I plan to gather people at Brussels, FOSDEM 2017 (likely
>>>> 4-5th February). I imagine we could talk about it for 2 days, as follows:
>>>> 0. Why accessibility needs to make part of free software: myself
>>>> 1. Technical general introduction: Samuel Thibault
>>>> 2. The solutions in GUI: at-spi and derivatives (Alejandro Pinero)
>>>> 3. Sending to assistive techno what's needed: Ma!io Lang
>>>> 4. Shipping non-reg tests in unit tests: Samuel
>>>> 5. Focus on Mozilla suite problems: discuss between Mozilla a11y
>>>> responsible and a member of Hypra team and Samuel and anyone who want to
>>>> help. Idea: identifying reported bugs and a process to help fixing them
>>>> easily, even with volunteers.
>>>> 6. Focus on LibreOffice: Michael Meeks, Jacob (Igalia) or other devs, a
>>>> Rypra member, anyone to help. We'd introduce our full round of bugs, the
>>>> LO online issue, and see what skills are needed to fix what and how we
>>>> can catch them.
>>>> 7. Focus on MATE: problems with 1.14, fixes, hacking, squphing
>>>>
>>>> If people want, sub-workshops are possible about:
>>>> 0. What about in GNU guidelines: Chris Hofstader or Luca Saiu
>>>> 1. The braille future on GNU/Linux
>>>> 2. The major remaining problems (sound, etc)
>>>> 3. etc
>>>>
>>>> My purpose is to make devs and a11y experts meet, so that devs
>>>> understand what is a11y, what is implied, etc. I plan to write a full
>>>> document to keep track on our meeting, and let it available publicly.
>>>> And having action plan for all communities present (reference documents,
>>>> guidelines, etc).
>>>>
>>>> What do you think of it? Would you be (or do you think of someone)
>>>> available to work with us?
>>>>
>>>> If you accept, I'll submit to FOSDEM, then:
>>>> - see with your respective employeers if they can pay for your travel
>>>> - for others, I'll request to Debian if they can help and will find
>>>> additional funds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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