From:  Bernard Tyers <ei8fdb@ei8fdb.org>
Date:  24 Aug 2016 04:44:28 Hong Kong Time
Newsgroup:  news.mozilla.org/mozilla.accessibility
Subject:  

Re: Devroom at FOSDEM about accessibility

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Hi Jean-Phillipe,

Great to hear you submitted. I hope your proposal gets accepted.

Let us know how it goes and I will happily publicise it to the
accessibility community in government user-centered design in the UK.

See you at FOSDEM.

Bernard

On 22/08/2016 22:12, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, I submitted, to let us choose how we do. Given that the replies
> from Samuel, Mario and Shérab, I reduced to one day, as I wouldn't like
> to do 2 days and not enough present persons. Moreover it 9ould let
> people switching between other devrooms and this.
> 
> I let you informed when I've answer.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 22/08/2016 à 22:37, Bernard Tyers a écrit :
>> Hi Jean-Philippe,
>>
>> In case you haven't seen, the FOSDEM devroom call is now open:
>>
>> https://fosdem.org/2017/news/2016-07-20-call-for-participation/
>>
>> Is there any update on your submission of an a11y room? I'd love to know
>> more.
>>
>> Best,
>> bernard
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/07/2016 19:27, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> After 1,5 year of intensive dialog with community, I still see that the
>>> main problem of accessibility is missing of knowledge (why, how), as
>>> well as wrong ideas (e.g. I need to create a speech synth, etc). And
>>> mail is not enough, devs need to see concretely how things happen, what
>>> is possible, why, etc. Just guidelines and principles could be written.
>>>
>>> I also think if big projects could ship accessibility in their strategy,
>>> it could change everything and create a more global movement.
>>>
>>> To help this, I plan to gather people at Brussels, FOSDEM 2017 (likely
>>> 4-5th February). I imagine we could talk about it for 2 days, as follows:
>>> 0. Why accessibility needs to make part of free software: myself
>>> 1. Technical general introduction: Samuel Thibault
>>> 2. The solutions in GUI: at-spi and derivatives (Alejandro Pinero)
>>> 3. Sending to assistive techno what's needed: Ma!io Lang
>>> 4. Shipping non-reg tests in unit tests: Samuel
>>> 5. Focus on Mozilla suite problems: discuss between Mozilla a11y
>>> responsible and a member of Hypra team and Samuel and anyone who want to
>>> help. Idea: identifying reported bugs and a process to help fixing them
>>> easily, even with volunteers.
>>> 6. Focus on LibreOffice: Michael Meeks, Jacob (Igalia) or other devs, a
>>> Rypra member, anyone to help. We'd introduce our full round of bugs, the
>>> LO online issue, and see what skills are needed to fix what and how we
>>> can catch them.
>>> 7. Focus on MATE: problems with 1.14, fixes, hacking, squphing
>>>
>>> If people want, sub-workshops are possible about:
>>> 0. What about in GNU guidelines: Chris Hofstader or Luca Saiu
>>> 1. The braille future on GNU/Linux
>>> 2. The major remaining problems (sound, etc)
>>> 3. etc
>>>
>>> My purpose is to make devs and a11y experts meet, so that devs
>>> understand what is a11y, what is implied, etc. I plan to write a full
>>> document to keep track on our meeting, and let it available publicly.
>>> And having action plan for all communities present (reference documents,
>>> guidelines, etc).
>>>
>>> What do you think of it? Would you be (or do you think of someone)
>>> available to work with us?
>>>
>>> If you accept, I'll submit to FOSDEM, then:
>>> - see with your respective employeers if they can pay for your travel
>>> - for others, I'll request to Debian if they can help and will find
>>> additional funds.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 
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