From:  "Dan Brown" <rdanbrown@gmail.com>
Date:  10 Sep 2015 02:23:13 Hong Kong Time
Newsgroup:  news.mozilla.org/mozilla.accessibility
Subject:  

RE: Brailleback Navigation Keys No Longer Working in Firefox for Android

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Dear Marco,

 

Wow.  Samsung released a new update this morning, and the behavior I
described with Brailleback when their Voice Assistant is used has been
resolved.  It's still present when Talkback is used, but at least one of
them works.

 

Samsung is apparently using a higher resolution on the Note5 so that more
fits on the screen, and while I don't know if how they're writing to the
screen has changed, I wonder if Brailleback's problem with Talkback in
Firefox has something to do with that new method?

 

Cordially,

 

Dan

 


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From: Marco Zehe [mailto:mzehe@mozilla.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:23 AM
To: Dan Brown
Cc: accessibility@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Brailleback Navigation Keys No Longer Working in Firefox for
Android


Hi Dan,


I am currently out of ideas. I cannot reproduce on this end, and I've so far
not seen any other report like yours. I initially thought it might be some
weird interaction between BrailleBack and the Samsung-flavored TalkBack
they've been introducing lately. But since normal touch exploration and
swiping works, I am no longer so convinced this is actually the case.


Marco



On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Dan Brown  wrote:



Dear Marco,
 
Yes, touch exploration works normally, as does swiping from one element to
another.  Everything is the same, aside from not being able to move by
braille navigation.
 
Cordially,
 
Dan

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From: Marco Zehe [mailto:mzehe@mozilla.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:15 AM 

To: Dan Brown
Cc: accessibility@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Brailleback Navigation Keys No Longer Working in Firefox for
Android


Hi Dan,

does touching and exploration work as expected still? Do swipes between
elements work on your device? I am totally baffled as to what might be
wrong.


Marco



On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Dan Brown  wrote:



Dear Marco,
 
Thank you for the quick response.  My device shows Brailleback version
0.93.0, so I don't believe there's been an update.  I have tried
uninstalling and then reinstalling Firefox, and have done the same for
Brailleback.  My other apps are working just as they were on the previous
device, Samsung Note4, so I'm not sure what's going on.  Any other ideas of
what I could try?
 
Cordially,
 
Dan

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From: Marco Zehe [mailto:mzehe@mozilla.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:41 AM
To: Dan Brown
Cc: accessibility@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Brailleback Navigation Keys No Longer Working in Firefox for
Android


Hi Dan,


has there been a BrailleBack update for some devices recently? I didn't see
anything, and we certainly didn't make any conscious choices that could
warrant BrailleBack from stopping to work.


In any case, we're currently in the process of bringing our Android more up
to speed with current releases, but this is not in Firefox 40 or such, but
will debut later this year. So those changes we're making cannot have caused
the problems you're seeing. If at all, they should even cause less problems
than more. :)


Marco



On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Dan Brown  wrote:


Greetings all,

I recently upgraded to the Samsung Note5 running Android 5.1.1, and Firefox
40.0.3.  I am using a Brailliant 32-cell display with Brailleback.  While
the menu and address bar work as before, I receive a beep whenever I use any
forward braille navigation command.  For example, pan right, advance item,
or advance line.  The previous navigation keys, such as pan left, take me
back to the menu at the top of the page.  Letter navigation, such as H for
heading, and G for graphic, work as before.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

Cordially,

Dan
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