From:  moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
Date:  02 Oct 2024 02:50:10 Hong Kong Time
Newsgroup:  news.alt119.net/alt.tv.hbo
Subject:  

Re: Bill Maher Scolds Audience For Laughing About Second Trump Assassination Attempt - "It's not funny!" Maher said.

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On 10/1/2024 2:08 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 9/30/24 10:22 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 9/30/2024 6:21 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 9/29/24 10:30 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2024 7:50 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 9/28/24 11:17 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/28/2024 6:08 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/27/24 11:17 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/27/2024 5:03 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/26/24 8:52 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/26/2024 5:33 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/24 2:38 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/2024 9:35 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/24 10:36 PM, shawn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:45:04 -0700, BTR1701 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liberal comedian Bill Maher scolded his audience this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week for laughing after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he talked about the second assassination attempt on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump on Sunday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maher made the remarks Friday evening on his HBO show 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> REAL TIME while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking about the attempt on Trump's life at Trump 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International Golf Club
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> West Palm Beach.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "So let's not bury the lead," Maher said. "The big story 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this week, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried to shoot Trump again. Let's not--"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The correct word is 'lede', not 'lead'. No wonder our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language is going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to hell if even journalists can't get this stuff right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never heard of the use of lede before, but this is a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairly decent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coverage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used the word all the time when I was editing Wiki, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because lots of articles didn't have good ledes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Such might be the proper setting for using 'lede' today, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> which afaics from this article is very much an "inside 
>>>>>>>>>>>> journalism" remnant:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2019/lead-vs-lede-roy-peter-clark-has-the-definitive-answer-at-last/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would say it's more of a print journalism remnant, back 
>>>>>>>>>>> when people used to read the newspaper every day.  The 
>>>>>>>>>>> quality and accuracy of information was better then, among 
>>>>>>>>>>> other things.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Read and, for better or worse, believe...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.  People 
>>>>>>>>> believe what they read just as much now, but much of it is 
>>>>>>>>> Soviet level propaganda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The un/popularity of (e.g.) FoxNews and MSNBC suggests to me 
>>>>>>>> that people have an increased awareness that public news is 
>>>>>>>> curated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting, that's one of the most fucked up statements I've 
>>>>>>> seen in my lifetime.  Trump gets millions of votes in elections, 
>>>>>>> and you claim people have "increased awareness?" How the fuck do 
>>>>>>> you put two and two together and get five trillion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there's increased awareness that news is slanted, even -- 
>>>>>> or maybe especially -- among people who actively tune in for the 
>>>>>> slant.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "slant" creates a lack of awareness, not the converse.
>>>>
>>>> I think one knows when he's put on rose-colored glasses...
>>>
>>>
>>> You think Fox News viewers know they're being lied to?  That's 
>>> fucking bullshit.
>>>
>>> https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/15/big-lie-fox-news-brian-stelter-book-00127133
>>>
>>>   ‘Tons of Crazy’: The Inside Story of How Fox Fell for the ‘Big Lie’
>>>
>>> A play-by-play from inside Fox reveals how the network poisoned 
>>> politics — and lost $787.5 million.
>>>
>>> Just one example.
>>
>> Yes, I think at least some realize they're seeking biased reporting.
> 
> 
> If you say so, every time I hear from a Fox viewer it's with an insane 
> glean in their eye.  Sort of channeling Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Afaics, besides Ubiquitous, most here know better than to cite Fox.